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Wu Qingfeng
Cai Weize
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Cai Weize and Wu Qingfeng
"The strongest label in the second season of 'Children of Tomorrow' is Cai Weize, Fool and Idiot." The audience cheered, but Cai Weize on the stage was still helpless, and the shy and cool smile froze on his face. "I was a bit blindfolded and didn't expect it at all." He didn't give a long thank you, just a simple statement, "There are winning and losing formats, but the music doesn't." After stepping down, Cai Weize saw everyone and wanted a big hug, asked if he was excited about winning the championship, Cai Weize simply laughed, "I just made a bet with one person, if I win, I will hug everyone I see, only tonight." ”
Compared with mao in the previous season, Cai Weize is like the most "out of place" champion in the mainstream music original program. A former lead singer of an independent orchestra, he has a world-weary face, and he is not good at any expression other than singing and writing. During the audition, he drew a pair of crayon-like thick eyebrows, wore a low-key cargo pants, and was only busy adjusting the reverberation after taking the stage, and did not even have unnecessary communication with the star pusher. He was defined as the coolest player in Children of Tomorrow 2, but Cai Weize didn't care, he just came to find a balance between independent music and mainstream.
Even so, in the game, Cai Weize did not throw himself into the mainstream. When the contestants are competing for stage lighting, effects, trying to blow up the whole field, a microphone, the creation of a non-popular melody, is always all of Cai Weize on the stage; even if he has won the strongest label many times, Cai Weize rarely shows any emotion on his face, he just silently observes the development of everything, "I don't want to render emotions, I don't want to show off people, and I don't want to serve the show." ”
However, this summer has passed, and Cai Weize seems to have found a balance. In the final, he wore a thick sweater, his hair sprayed with golden glitter, and his makeup was so delicate that when it was too hot to pass, he could only sneak sweat with his fingers cocked. "In the show, you have to shoot commercials, talk about earthy things, and do a lot of things that have nothing to do with music or performance. I wouldn't have done it before, but since I'm here, I'll follow the rules and I'll try to accept it when I need to balance it. ”
Many people say that such a Cai Weize is very similar to Wu Qingfeng when he was young. Both of them have stepped from the independent music scene to the mainstream stage, but they insist on creating music that is incompatible with the mainstream. Harvest flower applause, but also face countless confrontations and compromises. Wu Qingfeng said more than once that he had a unique preference for Cai Weize. When announcing the ownership of the championship, Wu Qingfeng was excited like a child. Many people think that he is proud of the headwind of the solo track, "No, the main thing is that Cai Weize's expression is really funny." Don't you think that every time the camera hits him, there is an inexplicable sense of joy? In such an arena, Wu Qingfeng and Cai Weize have a tacit understanding that is free from gain and loss.
In Wu Qingfeng's eyes, Cai Weize is a person suitable for walking a tightrope, who has an excellent sense of balance in contradictions, and Wu Qingfeng will also connect Cai Weize with his past self. But Wu Qingfeng, who has never changed himself, has never wanted to change anyone, "Even I don't feel that I have really compromised." All the labels I can prove are, neither, nor can Cai Weize do it. I believe he can break through the fashion and achieve a new standard. ”
The path we walked was different, he was a suitable man for tightrope walking
Beijing News: Looking at Cai Weize, did you see yourself at that time?
Wu Qingfeng: At the beginning, it was inevitable that I would connect with my past. But we've been together until now, he's him, I'm what I am, so I don't think I'll connect with that anymore, and I believe he'll have a different path. He would become another standard of one popular standard that he was breaking.
Beijing News: From the outside world, you are all slowly breaking through in the direction of the public from the niche, after the game is over, what advice will you give him?
Wu Qingfeng: He actually always knows what he wants to do, and I don't think he needs much advice. Every time he encounters a new situation, he can debug to a balance point quite quickly. I think he's a pretty good guy to walk on a tightrope because he has a great sense of balance. In the middle of many things, I was never afraid of him being washed away. From his song selection, I can also hear that he actually has some other things that can be taken out to let the family know about his changes, but he never does it, which I think is very good.
Beijing News: You have experienced confrontation with the outside world, and you have also looked for a balance point, in such a process you may have also compromised, will you give Cai Weize some advice, what things that need to be compromised in the future road?
Wu Qingfeng: I didn't actually talk too much, and I don't feel like I really compromised. In fact, many labels are pasted to you by others, and I have never been less. But all labels you can actually prove that they are all right and wrong, and I am trying to prove that every label on me is true, but there is no label that can define me. I think this is also something that Cai Weize can do. It doesn't matter if you put all the labels on me, but I know, that's not me. I just have to take off this coat, I'm still myself. Cai Weize has the ability to tolerate everyone's definition of the niche, that is the most popular.
Beijing News: During the whole program, did you and Cai Weize have any differences?
Wu Qingfeng: No, there is nothing to disagree about. I never wanted to change anyone's personality. I used to never change others because of this, so I don't want others to change, and I often have a lot of things that need to be fixed. Because everyone wants you to change, you are always trapped in the topic of change and change, so you want to fight.
Beijing News: Why do musicians still occasionally question whether they are talented when they are so determined to do what they want to do?
Wu Qingfeng: Now I will still have a time to be squeezed dry. But don't worry, because you have to have room to absorb more stuff. I experienced the most idle time of my life last year, and it is reasonable to say that I should have more space to do a lot of things, but I didn't write a single song or a note, and I didn't want to write it at all, which was really a very unhealthy state of psychology. It took me a year to fix it back, and there were a lot of members helping me along the way.
Don't please the audience, don't show off people to enjoy that kind of out of place
Beijing News: At first, everyone would think that you were a bit out of place with this show, but now do you enjoy this stage?
Cai Weize: What I enjoy is that I am out of place with this variety show. I saw Mr. Ma Wei today, the general artist walks very regularly, and Mr. Ma Wei just shakes his hands like this, very casually. I'm the same person as him. When Singing "None of Them" in the final, I actually wanted to cry, especially in the last sentence of "When the prosperity is lost, they meet". Because on this stage, the surrounding lights are very brilliant, and the audience is constantly screaming, but I see a deceased independent person standing in the middle of the stage, and he has something in common with me, I will be very moved.
Beijing News: I have always maintained a keen observation of this society, is this talent? Or do you usually pay attention to maintaining an observer's perspective and perspective?
Cai Weize: Yes, I quite like to observe things, like to watch the development of things, and then analyze some of the wisdom that can be obtained. For example, in "Children of Tomorrow 2", I saw Wen Zhaojie eliminated and Deng Dian eliminated, and I would analyze the reason why he lost because the human setting was not three-dimensional enough. They all sing great and don't look bad. If it is purely visual, there are still distinctive features, but why is it not popular enough? I would think about it and get some wisdom out of it.
Beijing News: So the word "human design" has also been considered?
Cai Weize: I didn't think about it. When it was the novice war, the program team put on a subtitle, saying that I was the coolest boy in this film, and since then my personality has been fixed. So before the final was sung in the last song, I said a paragraph, I don't want to exaggerate emotions, I don't want to show off people, I never want to serve the show.
Beijing News: You have always been cool on the stage, and it is difficult for everyone to capture too many of your expressions. Is your whole person really in such a flat state during the race?
Cai Weize: Except for the time when Wen Zhaojie was eliminated, basically my mood was quite calm, because I was ready to be eliminated at any time. For me, the show is a show, that there will be departures. But this departure does not mean that he has disappeared from the Chinese music scene. The main thing is that the audience's emotions will be rendered very large. But I may be more like Mr. Ma Wei, I just want to express my musical works in its entirety, and nothing else should be taken seriously.
Beijing News: After winning the championship, there will be a lot of pressure and expectations, and you may need to compromise. Ready to go?
Cai Weize: I'll know when it comes, but I really don't particularly please the audience. What I expect of myself, what my members expect of me, is what matters. Because the audience of the show only saw me on the stage now, but my members, or some old fans, they saw me that included the past.
Beijing News: You said you didn't want to do Mayday, but you wanted to do The Beatles. Has this idea changed?
Cai Weize: I just want to be a "fool and an idiot". All those who do original work should look at the international world, not only in the Chinese music scene. I think there are about three things in music: the first is the so-called degree of dissemination, the second is the expression, such as the lyrics part; and the third, the "technology" that many independent orchestras will ignore. This is important. If your creation wants to go international, you need to have the technology. Because your expression is different from a foreign culture, he may not be able to understand it.
Beijing News: If the audience wants you to solo (fly solo), have you considered separating from the orchestra?
Cai Weize: I don't think everything has to be tied to the regiment. Of course, I would never be able to separate from the group for a short period of time, because my ability was not strong enough to make songs alone. Even if we all get stronger, we'll still want to do it together. It's pure will.
Beijing News: Before you participated in the competition, what was your approximate amount of creation?
Cai Weize: I belong to the inspiration to write songs, but I write a song for a very long time, about half a year. But after participating in the show, my creative speed became faster. I only wrote "A Bright Future" for one week, and I was satisfied. In the three months of the competition, I wrote about four songs, "Give a Little Applause", "Each Other", "A Better Future", and one RAP that I didn't sing.
Beijing News: In the future, if the schedule is relatively full, you may be very hasty all year round, there is no way to calm down and create, have you ever worried about this problem?
Cai Weize: I think it will give me a different inspiration. When you are very idle, there is a lot of idle inspiration, and when you are very busy, there is a very busy inspiration. To be honest, when I am very idle, I can't write songs. Maybe my life has changed, which means that I will write different new works because there will be different inspirations. If I had written songs like before after my life had changed, it might not have been the most sincere creation. So the future "silly white" style may be adjusted once.
Every time I finish a game, I want to drink a lot of wine together
Beijing News: In your daily communication, in addition to music, will Qingfeng tell Cai Weize some personal experiences or cognition of the world?
Qingfeng Wu: At the beginning, I shared with him some of my concerns in the independent music industry. But after talking to him a few times, I found that he had no need to worry about it at all, and I never said it again.
Cai Weize: It's not that I don't need advice from others, it's just that I know better than other players what I want. And I'm more comfortable with that this is a very important thing for making music. So I have been learning qingfeng teacher's daguan, which is the most lacking type of thinking mode at my age when I am more paranoid. I think as long as Teacher Qingfeng is around, you will grow up and don't need him to tell you anything. It's a metaphysics.
Wu Qingfeng: In order to make you grow, I have to stay here all the time, I can't go.
Beijing News: Will you especially need Qingfeng at a certain moment?
Wu Qingfeng: He's okay.
Cai Weize: Every time I finish the game, I really want to drink with the teacher.
Wu Qingfeng: A few times later, I seem to feel it, let's talk about the next program, but in fact, after three minutes of discussion, we started drinking.
Cai Weize: In fact, the solo show track must be original, so we have to come up with works. There is nothing good to choose songs for the original, and we spend more time playing.
Beijing News: Who is better at drinking?
Wu Qingfeng: We haven't really drunk very, very much.
Cai Weize: There has been no competition. But I didn't drink very well.
Wu Qingfeng: But he loves to drink. The way to relieve stress is to drink and sleep.
The market does not accept to see the fate
Beijing News: When you don't usually see each other, what kind of communication methods will you have?
Wu Qingfeng: During the program, to meet him, I must go through the program, and I can't contact him privately, so I have to find some excuses to take him out.
Cai Weize: The program side will hope that the contestants can maintain their status and focus on the game, so there are quite a lot of restrictions, we must inform to go out, there is no way to move freely.
Beijing News: Where do you think Cai Weize's biggest growth in this show is?
Wu Qingfeng: In the show, he will receive opinions from others again and again, but he can still stick to his own ideas, which is a growth. It was an invisible, still-water growth. You feel as if he hasn't changed, but in fact he's showing his maturity in a different way.
Cai Weize: I think you must think clearly about changing this kind of thing before doing it, instead of being changed with the flow. Change should be spontaneous. Just like the style of my last song is completely different from the previous songs, it is a very spontaneous thing. Although it is still very flat, I just feel that more young people who make music like this need to appear, so that we can start another era.
Beijing News: The market rushed over, you may need to face more temptations and compromises, are you ready for this?
Cai Wei ze: I always felt that the most important thing was to write the music that I really wanted to write. The market accepts you or not, it is your fate.
Wu Qingfeng: We don't use traffic to judge things, he actually does not reject traffic, nor is he afraid of crowds rushing over.
Cai Weize: Yes, as long as we do our own music well, many people like it, and if few people like it, very few people like it, I don't think this thing is particularly important.
Beijing News reporter Liu Wei Zhang He