IT Home News on March 17, Huawei recently held the "Problem Unveiling" Spark Award Ceremony at its headquarters in Shenzhen Bantian to present awards to the representatives of the awardees who made outstanding contributions to solving the problem.
Ren Zhengfei said that during the three years of US sanctions against Huawei, Huawei completed the replacement development of 13,000+ devices, the repeated replacement of 4,000+ circuit boards, etc., and only now the circuit boards have stabilized because of the supply of domestic components.
Ren Zhengfei said that Huawei is still in a difficult period, but it has not stopped on the road ahead. "In 2022, we spent $23.8 billion on R&D, and we will continue to invest in cutting-edge exploration in a few years as our profits increase."
According to it, in April this year, Huawei's MetaERP will swear to make its own management system MetaERP software completely using its own operating system, database, compiler and language. MetaERP has been tested by the application of various departments around the world, and has passed the test of annual settlement using the company's general ledger.
For the current hot ChatGPT, Ren Zhengfei said that there will be a storm in the future on AI big models, not just Microsoft. The direct contribution of artificial intelligence software platform companies to human society may be less than 2%, 98% is the promotion of industrial society, agricultural society, AI service popularization requires 5G connectivity.
Huawei will only be the underlying computing power platform of AI, and will not touch the application platform. What are the opportunities for ChatGPT for Huawei? Ren Zhengfei believes that it will expand the calculation and the pipeline flow, so that our products have market demand.
IT House with Ren Zhengfei's speech and expert symposium transcript (edited):
First of all, thank you for your contributions to Huawei. We are still in difficult times, but we have not stopped on the road ahead. In 2022, we spent $23.8 billion on R&D, and we will continue to invest more in cutting-edge exploration in a few years as our profits increase. Our cooperation with universities is to explore the future of humanity within a certain technological boundary; 2012 The laboratory is based on basic theory and applied theory, exploring the possibility of reality, and there is no target assessment; The product line is responsible for the commercial success of the product. Roughly divided into these three stages, as our economic strength grows, we will continue to expand the "trumpet" of foreign cooperation.
When I was young, I admired the West, because Western technology was so advanced, and in our time, books were very precious, it was difficult to see a good book, I wanted to read but couldn't buy it. After founding Huawei, I was also pro-Western, when we came up with the slogan "To make the world's best products with the world's best parts and tools", and we achieved it. Then suddenly under sanctions, others could not provide us with parts, tools..., we were stupid. Many of the best parts in the world come from the United States, and in fact I am pro-American. When the United States hit us with a stick and severely sanctioned us, Xu Zhijun said to me at an office meeting: "The United States did not understand that their baton turned the most pro-American person into the most anti-American person." Of course, I am not anti-American now, if we want to be the most advanced, we must learn from all advanced people. The soft power of the United States in science and education is still something that we cannot achieve in a few decades. American politicians are also round by round, and the soil of innovation in the United States for hundreds of years will not be degraded because of them.
Fortunately, we have spent nearly 20 years making preparations in basic theory and invested hundreds of billions to train a group of scientists and experts with technical know-how who study basic theory. They have been climbing the scientific "Himalayas". When we are suppressed, we invite these scientists to the "foot of the mountain" to "herd sheep", "farm"... and take a "scalpel" to participate in the battle of "killing pigs". We completed the replacement development of 13000+ devices and the repeated board replacement development of 4000+ boards in three years. Only now our circuit boards have stabilized, because we have domestic parts in supply.
In April this year, our MetaERP will swear to make its own management system MetaERP software entirely with its own operating system, database, compiler and language. MetaERP has been tested by the company's global departments, through the company's general ledger use annual settlement test, our company's account is the most complex in the industry, has successfully proved that MetaERP is confidently promoted. Many design tools have also been exposed to HUAWEI CLOUD for social applications, gradually overcoming the embarrassment of supply cuts.
In the past, a large number of our research has cooperated with universities in Western countries, and now we have begun to strengthen cooperation with domestic universities, which is related to the change in my personal guiding ideology. As we go to the forefront, we will gradually strengthen cooperation in this area at home. Now we can start to get to know each other, and if we have any questions, we are welcome to discuss them together.
Question: Our school wants to build a future technology college, and we thought when we designed that if we can understand some of the future needs of innovative companies like Huawei, and give students more guidance and space for development through school-enterprise cooperation, we will be able to promote the cultivation of future technical talents. This is our own idea as an education community, I wonder if Huawei also has corresponding ideas and specific measures to cooperate with universities in terms of future technical talents?
Ren: This may involve the institutional design of the state. I believe that science and technology are two different concepts, science is discovery and technology is invention. Vannevar Bush has a book "Science: Endless Frontiers" that writes very well, science is endless frontiers, and the unknown is called science. From this point of view, education and science are the same, education does not necessarily have to have accurate answers, and accurate answers are not necessarily the needs of schools.
A kid with a Ph.D. at MIT told me they didn't have handouts or textbooks; The teacher comes up to talk about it, writes it on the blackboard, and designates a batch of reference materials; Several professors criticize each other during lectures, each with their own point of view, and each recommends some reference books to guide you to read; And then you write, you don't need results to write articles, as long as the logic of thinking is appropriate, the teacher marks you, this is science. The teacher was talking about the frontier of his research, and he himself did not fully understand that science is the work of generation after generation. As long as the doctor has a way of thinking, there will not necessarily be results, some science is too far away, one step is difficult to prove, and the process is correct. Our Spark Award does not have to have a "result", otherwise how can it be called "better than blue"? If education always pursues results, students' minds are constrained. Therefore, it is not enough to be too pragmatic and demand-oriented, and to lead China forward. Education should be open to let students "think cranky", as long as the logic of his thinking coincides, do not constrain him. Reading is to get the "key" to open the door, the key is to read a methodology, the method of using knowledge is more important than knowledge. Because knowledge can be obtained on the Internet, how to combine, how to stitch, this is what universities want to learn.
The needs of enterprises are realistic because we have to solve real problems, but education should not focus on real needs, but be oriented to the future.
Question: I just joined the school as an assistant professor this year, and my research direction is related to ChatGPT. In foreign countries, these studies are done by relatively young people, but in China, many resources are basically in the hands of relatively high-level professors or engineers, such as machines and students, but their understanding and follow-up of new technologies may not be enough. Young people have great ideas, but without machines, they can't recruit better students. People who have the ability do not have resources, and those who have resources do not have the ability, in the face of such a situation, what advice and guidance does Mr. Ren have?
Ren: I know that the EDA of Hong Kong Chinese University is doing very well, and other fields should be very good; City University of Hong Kong teaches semiconductor technology very well; HKU's theory is good; ......
First, the categories of scientists can be different, some are architecture scientists, some are explanatory scientists, some are breakthrough scientists, and some are craftsman scientists.... Older scientists, they have rich life experience and a clear understanding of system architecture; They explain the architecture model to young people, and young people are easy to break through if they have whimsy, and the defects in this architecture are easy to be repaired; Some people who are deeply hands-on, have accumulated a wealth of know-how experience in engineering implementation, and are good at solving complex engineering problems, we also call them artisan scientists. The most creative are young people, but the most architectural ability are experienced old experts and professors, who have a clear understanding of the entire architecture. Therefore, it is necessary to combine the old, middle-aged and young people so that the country can overcome major difficulties.
I think that the School of Surveying and Mapping of Wuhan University has done a very good job, and five academicians give lectures to first-year students, which is the most correct. The first grade child is the smartest, but he doesn't know what it's like to climb the "second floor", and the professor tells him about the "second floor", "third floor", "fourth floor" ... What is it. It doesn't take eight years to graduate with a doctorate to suddenly realize that the "second floor" is like this. Shenzhen's reform some time ago was very good, doctoral students became middle school teachers and primary school teachers, this is the country's progress. Enlighten him as a child what his future ideals are, don't wait until he is getting old and tell him, you will miss out on the best era of invention. Because the most creative thinking is childhood, his imaginary space, imaginary people, imaginary interpersonal relationships are none of us, why should they be neatly walked together at this time, why can't they be allowed to be a little inconsistent? China's future needs to bloom.
Second, there will be storms in the future on AI big models, not just Microsoft. The direct contribution of artificial intelligence software platform companies to human society may be less than 2%, 98% is the promotion of industrial society, agricultural society, AI service popularization requires 5G connectivity. The reason why Germany is so supportive of Huawei's 5G is that it wants to promote the progress of artificial intelligence to German industry, and the production of many factories in Germany is unmanned; China's Xiangtan Iron and Steel Plant, from steelmaking to steel rolling, the furnace front is unmanned; Tianjin Port has also realized unmanned loading and unloading of goods, as soon as the code is entered, the container is automatically transported from the ship, and then transported away by car; After the adoption of 5G + artificial intelligence underground in the Shanxi coal mine, the number of personnel was reduced by 60-70%, and most people worked in suits in the control room at the surface. ......。 These are all examples that have been used on a large scale, and in these processes, the ultimate contribution to humanity is significant.
We should pay attention to applications, especially in industrial and agricultural societies, and the application of models is sometimes more promising than the models themselves. But in addition to the underlying computing power platform that our company will do, the application platform is not our option. Our company doesn't know anything else, so we have to focus on this aspect and strive to build a computing power platform that adapts to the needs of society. The idea that the underlying platform will open up is Xu Zhijun's idea to me, and we can account for a little of the 2% of the platform contribution. What are the opportunities for ChatGPT for us? It will stretch up the calculation, stretch the pipeline flow, so that our products have market demand.
Question: Just now, Mr. Ren said that you did not study when you were young, but you founded Huawei and created miracles, did personal leadership and personal heroism play a decisive role?
Ren Zhengfei: I'm talking about the sixties, when there was opposition to white specialists, lack of technical books, unlike so many books today, and the Internet, and young people should cherish this opportunity. What a time! On the Internet, the collision of ideas is global, and the spark of collision is also at the forefront of the times. It pushes a huge group to create the world, and the speed of progress in the world accelerates.
In the field of connectivity, we should be the world leader, which is 200,000 people, plus 200,000 people outsourced, plus the energy absorbed from theorists around the world. For example, the theory of 5G was triggered by a mathematical paper by Professor Arikan, Turkey. In the field of computing, we also want to catch up with the United States, we have a window of opportunity, and to seize the window of opportunity, we still have to rely on collective strength to promote cluster computing. Our company is called "a cup of coffee absorbs cosmic energy", mainly collective wisdom squeezes and hits each other, your thoughts ignite his spark, his spark ignites a raging fire. For example, President Zhang Xiang of the University of Hong Kong mentioned the scientific research on ordinary glass radiant refrigeration, where the sun shines on the outer surface and the inner surface produces cold air. Isn't it an extremely great achievement whether this technology can be applied to the shell of our machine?
Therefore, individual inventions must have a platform for groups to turn sparks into raging fires. How to unite this platform? Everyone will devote themselves to carrying a "palanquin".
Question: After Huawei realized the importance of mathematics, how did it promote and lay out at the company level? In addition, with many outstanding mathematical talents joining Huawei, will Huawei continue to strengthen cooperation with university scientific research circles after its mathematical capabilities are gradually enhanced?
Ren Zhengfei: Napoleon's practice of establishing a state in mathematics promoted the progress of mathematics in France; Catherine's introduction of Western philosophy, painting, etc., actually promoted the progress of Russia. Physics is mathematics, civil architecture is mathematics, mechanics is mathematics.... Mathematics can be used to solve problems in a variety of places, covering a wide range. For example, experts in civil architecture solve the algorithm problems of civil architecture through their understanding of civil architecture.
Why does our company value mathematics? What is radio and what is communication? Aren't electromagnetic waves equations? Professor Arikan, Turkey, wrote a mathematical paper that turned into a raging fire for 5G a decade later; In the early sixties of the last century, the former Soviet scientist Peter Uffimtsev published a paper that diamond facets can scatter radio waves, and 20 years later, the United States created the F22 stealth aircraft; In the fifties of last century, Professor Wu Zhonghua of the Chinese Academy of Sciences' ternary flow theory on the isentropic facet calculation method of jet engines, which laid the foundation for today's aircraft engine industry. ......。
In the future, towards the information society, the importance of mathematics is getting higher and higher, artificial intelligence is all mathematics, and algorithm problems are mathematical problems. How to solidify some quantities of physics into models using algorithms? This model allows everyone to use it, and the people who use the model do not have to understand, they can use it. Of course, physics, chemistry, neurobiology, engineering, electronics ... It's all very important.
We will set up a system simulation laboratory in the Holy City, the mathematics of the Holy University is very powerful in the world, wireless, network, computing, digital energy, supply, manufacturing, materials... You can do simulation experiments here; We set up a mirror laboratory in Guian, and when we do large-scale model experiments, we can build exactly the same complete scene in Guian, and you don't need to try it on the actual scene of the customer. Ask teachers to come to us to do research and experiments, you can take the results away, and we can learn from your published papers.
Therefore, for universities, after the company overcomes the difficulties, within a certain technical boundary, the support for universities will be a little greater, and make a little contribution to improving everyone's academic environment. But we have much less money than the country.
Question: We have a guiding ideology: study real problems, really study problems, and really solve problems. After the unveiling, we promoted a cooperation project with Huawei, which will involve openness and some institutional issues. For example, how to implement the solutions we studied to Huawei's product line, and how to follow up? Can the person who can give the question also be motivated? This encourages people to be willing to share things with us and to work with us to solve problems.
Ren Zhengfei: We must not be too stingy, after the teacher unveils the list, we must give corresponding bonuses and commendations, and combine spiritual and material incentives.
Our learning platform is divided into several parts: first, "Huang Danian Tea House", where all theories (including our own) are fully open, because we believe that Huawei's integration capabilities should be stronger than other companies; The second is "Jiaxian.com", which is Know-How, which is technology and is currently not open to society; Third, the technically open part was released to the "Huangdanian Tea House". The teacher's research results are theoretical and not necessarily useful quickly. Didn't you know anyone about follow-up? They will reveal information to you, and you are interested at that time and welcome to participate.
We need people with problem-solving ability, and well-rounded people don't play much role in our company. For example, the "Spark Award" is a broken question, and you may also be a "crooked date", except for breaking this question, you don't understand much else. Holistic development is about developing leaders. To the doctorate should not be comprehensively developed, at which point can break through, we should change the evaluation system of doctors. If it can be changed, it will be valuable to the next generation of children.
Question: Recently, I noticed that a "genius boy" left after working in the company for two years to start a robot business; I have a friend who graduated from the University of Zurich in a similar situation, who is also considered a top student in the field and left after working for two years. ChatGPT, electric cars, DJI drones... A lot of disruptive innovation is done by such start-ups. The first question, how does Mr. Ren view the difference between young people in innovation and entrepreneurship and compliance? The second question, in addition to treatment, can our company give young people some resource encouragement in the system, encourage everyone to break through, innovate, and dare to challenge?
Ren Zhengfei: First, when entering our company, the title of "genius boy" is gone, and positioning "genius teenager" is mainly used for grading and salary for entry. When all new employees are in the Sanyapo induction training, there are lists of announced topics everywhere, everyone has to actively reply to the post, someone will read this post, someone will come to you for coffee, you have to communicate seriously, objections or approvals. They are selecting people, and these experts have the power to rank you on the spot and set jobs, because they are very good experts themselves. If he thinks you can develop, the rank will be set high, so why do you have to start at the lowest level? He can also pull you into his project team, and you go straight into the big project team. A large project team does not refer to a large scale, but a high-end project team.
We emphasize "eclectic selection of talents", combining old, middle-aged and young people, and rolling forward in an open environment. The most breakthrough among young people is 25-35 years old; Experienced and qualified people have the ability to structure, and architecture is just as important as breakthrough. There are also problems of success and failure in science and technology, defeat is not discouraged, failure is also a real combat exercise for you.
Second, we cannot monopolize talents, employees want to go out to start a business or go to other companies, and people can make the best use of their talents and play their value, which is useful to the country. In the past, there was a movie called "The Center Died Before Dawn", we monopolized talent, useless and held on, consumed his youth, and also had to pay him a salary, both ends were not flattering. We also have reflections on the talent mechanism, such as some people who enter the company, do not use what they do best, and not playing a role is equivalent to wasting their youth.
The key to talent is how to use it. For example, we emphasize the vertical circulation mechanism of experts, experts cannot stay in one post for a long time, but must go to the front line to fight to circulate. As soon as the "stone" is turned over, the "grass" pressed below grows taller and everyone sees it, so that young people are not buried under the "stone". The purpose of the expert vertical cycle is to allow him to combine theory and practice to solve practical problems. The vertical cycle does not necessarily entail a salary cut, there is no rank in the working group, he can be higher than the rank of the executive branch, he can be "lieutenant", "colonel", "major general", "general", etc., keep his cycle until there is a suitable position. Of course, the unsuitable people also face elimination. Practice without theory, will be experienced dozens of times in blind groping to feel; Without practice, there is no deep understanding of theory.
Question: The world has gradually entered the data age, and algorithms, computing power, and data are the three pillars of the data age. In terms of algorithms and computing power, universities have ways to solve them, but it is more difficult for universities to collect data, and a lot of data is actually provided by various companies. But some data may involve privacy issues that are difficult for companies to provide, so the algorithm is slow to progress. I wonder what Mr. Ren thinks about this issue?
Ren Zhengfei: Our company has a project that hopes to achieve tens of millions of servers and one operating system, all young people, I will let them "talk nonsense", anyway, we can't do tens of millions now. Now it can be hundreds of thousands of operating systems.
Our company's algorithm is an algorithm to solve the computing power, and the energy is mainly focused on how to use the algorithm to reduce the consumption problem in the process of large traffic, and only do the "black soil" basic platform. In principle, we do not do algorithms that solve customer applications, and the algorithm part that serves the business can only be understood by customers. The data belongs to others, and we can borrow it at most.
We may also learn from Google in the future and do some research that has no practical meaning, not necessarily related to Huawei's business, in fact, it is to make more contributions to human society. Of course, we don't have that much money now, and when the net profit is enough, our scientific frontier will go one step further, from the spark to the universe.
Question: In some applied mathematics fields, from Huawei's perspective, what problems can we do medium- or long-term planning?
Ren Zhengfei: I think that the combination of mathematics and industry should be the task of some specific applied research institutes. For example, Zhenjiang Agricultural Machinery College of Jiangsu University and Zhengzhou cooperated to make a hydraulic tractor, why can't the college have its own characteristics, isn't it a famous school in some aspects? High-horsepower hydraulic tractors are currently only available in the United States, and nearly 10,000 acres of cultivated land a day is very powerful. The tractors made by the mainland have little horsepower, but they will not already be done, why are all the Chinese academies exactly the same?
The Chinese Academy of Sciences is responsible for discovering, so that it can explore some divergent and "boring" things, allowing "nonsense", which is the precursor of human beings. But turning your discoveries into engineered products or devices is not your specialty, it requires a wider range of cooperation, your theory is linked to practice to exert greater value, and "useless" can be "useful".
Question: Just now you said that science is about doing "boring" things, and I agree with it very much. There is also a saying that 100 years ago Einstein could have made a theory of relativity while sitting in his room, but modern science may require large instruments, large scientific devices. In this case, if a young scientist does not have a clear goal orientation, it may be difficult to make some outstanding progress. There are some uncertainties in basic research that make it difficult to plan ahead. May I ask Mr. Ren, how do you see the balance between the two?
Ren Zhengfei: Science is driven by curiosity, and some theories and papers are published, and it may take one or two hundred years for them to play a role. Einstein made great discoveries at a young age, everyone does not understand, he is not also very lonely, looking for people to drink coffee everywhere, each of them said, life is so long, how many people are interested in drinking coffee with him, you think that someone will drink coffee with him every day. Greatness and loneliness are synonymous. For example, Mendel's pea hybridization experiment was carried out for eight years from 1856 to 1863, and he compiled the results into a paper "Plant Hybridization Experiment" and published it, he discovered genetics, but failed to attract the attention of academia at that time, Mendel's ideas and experiments were too advanced. It took a hundred years for people to realize the great value of genetics to human society.
We still have to separate science and technology, and if we talk about doing things with purpose, purpose is technology, not science. Science is your hobby, and it will be done at all costs to figure it out. Therefore, most scientists seem to be "crazy", and few scientists can see the achievements of their research in human society. For example, Maxwell did not know that his equations were so important to human society, and the current wireless world is based on his theory of electromagnetic fields; Faraday also did not know that the current electrified society was derived from his coil frame experiments; Pythagoras could not have imagined that his theory of geometry had evolved into the germ of calculus....
Scientists are also "ascetics", and the process of advancing scientists to the forefront of science is the same as that of missionaries to Africa. Those missionaries who went to Africa were very bitter, hundreds of years ago from Europe to Africa could only take a small wooden boat, 100 people can survive 1 person to come. And from the seashore deep into the barren land and primeval forest, a few more people can survive. Is it possible for him to reverse the process in his life and return to the UK to visit his relatives? There is no going back, devotion is painful and joyful. Without their piety, Africa cannot be developed now, and the language is not understood, how can it be developed? Because they spread the language, the language environment in Africa is good and has a basis for development.
Question: Do some research in universities and some research and development within our company be further coordinated to solve technical problems together? Would like to hear your advice in this regard.
Ren Zhengfei: The research of universities is not directly related to the research and development of our company, because universities should undertake the tasks of universities, which is a very broad concept. We cooperate with universities, and our company just puts a little thing in, releases it through the power of universities, and gives full play to the role of university scholars. For example, colleges and universities like "noodles", and we put some "MSG".
The second is to identify some outstanding students, which are our seeds. If his life is really difficult, he can come to our company for an internship during the summer vacation, so that he also has money to pay for tuition. There are also various ways, such as our competition organization is carried out all over the world, not just in Chinese universities. We need to attract talent from all over the world to solve some of our problems.
Question: I have three feelings: First, we are really tired of doing projects with Huawei, because doing national projects generally makes an annual report once a year, and cooperates with other companies to make a quarterly report. Second, the project is really landed. Third, Huawei's data protection is really strict. I suggest, is it possible to set up some special data distribution points for Huawei? We come to do some analysis, you do some physical control; You can also do some desensitization of some data and remove Huawei's core technology.
Ren Zhengfei: I don't understand how these "farmers" of Huawei manage their daily lives, and whether they still have to blow the "wake up number". We say "a cup of coffee absorbs cosmic energy", 2012 There was a time in the lab, when someone came back to reimburse, they had to write a harvest report, and drinking coffee once could find inspiration, you see how naïve these officers are. Did he think he was going to have coffee with "God"? How can these chiefs, who have not drunk "coffee", manage you professors?
First, in the future, the cooperation between our school and enterprise should be reported every few years. Don't waste time writing reports, scientific research to whom, only to yourself, because science is an endless frontier. We have allocated money, you will go to study, and after the study is done, you can make it public. You can publish papers or write books, there is no need to carry the names of our employees, after all, they already receive high salaries. As long as we read your paper and understand, we will start to digest, digest and then pass it down, we will make a product and make money, why should we compete with you for fame?
Second, I'm open to data. The network of "Huang Danian Tea House" is connected to our company's network, and our joint research and cooperation with universities can access data on HUAWEI CLOUD through the nearest tea house. When you need this data to enrich your results, you can apply and we open it for you to download. I think that opening up to you is also good for the country, and you take the data for others to use, and it is also to promote the progress of society and the country. "Science knows no borders" means just that.
Question: Today I am participating in the event as a question-taker. As a question maker, not only have to bear the condensation and release of difficult problems, but also communicate with external teachers and internal employees, and the work is actually quite heavy. As the questioner, it is not the winner, so the conference did not give flowers. I think it is also necessary to give some incentives to the questioner.
Ren Zhengfei: This bouquet of flowers in front of me will be given to you now. It is really difficult to come up with the question, one day you can't come up with the question, Jiang Lang is exhausted, then I really want to send you flowers to encourage you.
The growth path of our scientists: one is to go vertically up, climbing the "Himalayas" for scientific ideals, the salary is less, but the income must still be decent; The other is to take the "scalpel" to participate in the battle of "killing pigs", and use the skills you have learned to help us find existing problems, solve problems, generate commercial value, and maybe more money will be evaluated according to value. If you think that you have less money, take your theoretical knowledge to participate in the battle of "killing pigs", and the amount of income is related to the value generated by "killing pigs". Can I choose "climbing" again after "killing pigs"? Yes, this is the all-powerful scientist.
Question: Talking to my product line colleagues, I found that through business modeling and computational simulation, problems can be identified and improved, so that our products can achieve extremely high quality, minimalist architecture, and can achieve some advanced systems with some less advanced processes. May I ask Mr. Ren, what guidance does the cutting-edge research in system simulation modeling in the computing industry have for us?
Ren Zhengfei: First of all, we would like to thank Zhu Guangping, who used to be the company's fellow and has retired. At that time, he proposed that "we are going to be the world's fifth computer", and we all laughed at him, thinking it was "nonsense", how can we rise in computing products? Doing it, you proposed to be the second in the world, it seems that recently you are not willing to be the second in the world?
China's social system has its unique advantages, China's high-speed rail, highways, power supply system, telecommunications system... Infrastructure has been built to uninhabited areas, and farmers cannot escape poverty without the power of the state to do these things at any cost. This is the superiority of socialism. China put forward the concept of "counting from east to west", which the United States cannot do, because the US economy is privately owned. Why can't the U.S. power grid keep up with China's power grid stability? The rules of China's power grid are scientific distribution, and scientific distribution must be made in both inhabited and uninhabited areas; And American companies will only deploy where they can make money. In particular, the mainland's high-voltage direct current transmission leads the world, which requires thousands of equipment supporting research, which cannot be done without national planning and coordination. At the same time, the Soviet Union, which started at the same time, did not make it because of its collapse. There are more than sixty power grids in the United States, which cannot be coordinated and cannot be done. Medium voltage DC drive, no transformer, how much space will be saved.
Norway is the richest country in the world, with a per capita GDP of more than 100,000 US dollars more than two decades ago, but the country's population is too dispersed, there is no communication infrastructure in the countryside, there is no TV in some places, and it is difficult to get through by telephone. Therefore, the superior mechanism of Chinese socialism will make it possible for China's computing power to rise.
Of course, we cannot be the first, the United States is still powerful, because advanced chip manufacturing is still difficult in China, we are using another method to make up for the backwardness in chips. Our construction of a large-scale cloud architecture system simulation laboratory in Shengshi is to build our advanced "digital wind tunnel" to accelerate the iteration speed of scientific research through system modeling, analysis, simulation, verification, and optimization. There are many excellent mathematicians and physicists in the local area, and you should make full use of them.
Q: There are different research departments within the company, such as the 2012 laboratory, the product line research department, including the various R&D teams directly responsible for the product delivery department. May I ask Mr. Ren, how can we do better internal technical cooperation, technological competition, and external technical cooperation?
Ren Zhengfei: Scientific and rational division of labor is too difficult, so isn't that a planned economy? If it is scientifically sound, there can be no duplication of resources. The market economy allows for repeated research and waste, which is to let everyone have a competitive relationship. The research of multiple modules, in the competition, it is possible that the small module will eat the large module, then we will recognize the leadership of the small module, and it is up to him to integrate resources. The cadre tenure system, the expert circulation system, the learning platform for everyone to discuss... The departmental "wall" was gradually torn down. Now we are open to discussion, to think in discussion, to learn in thinking, and to see what everyone discusses is also learning.
Question: The school's student assessment orientation is different from our company's assessment orientation. For example, I am doing pure theoretical research in mechanics in school, and after a doctor like us comes to the company, most of them have an adaptation process, some people may adapt for a short time, some people may adapt for a long time, and some leave without adaptation.
Ren Zhengfei: We are not involved in the reform of the education system, it is too complicated. I once praised Hengshui Middle School, which cannot change the external environment, so it changes the way of victory to adapt to the external environment. Hengshui Middle School has the winning method of Hengshui Middle School, and Shenzhen Middle School also has the method of Shenzhen Middle School, and the mainland cannot be claimed by Shenzhen's educational model. We must all agree with a variety of education models.
Our company is a selection system for employees, not a training system, and students should consider whether the work is suitable for your hobbies when choosing whether to come to Huawei or not. If it is not appropriate, do not come, waste your youth. We can't design destiny for students. When you enter Huawei, you must consider adaptability, not only see the high salary, but also see whether the position given to you is in line with your interests and hobbies, and whether you are willing to contribute here. Huawei cannot accommodate the people of the world, and it is impossible for the people of the world to adapt.
The company has only one general ideal, employees can not ask the company to achieve your ideal, you must adapt to this general ideal, participate in the main force combat, play your role. Our main channel will not change, the scope of your cooperation with universities is a little wider, by 2012 the laboratory is a little narrower, to product development is even narrower, there must be long-term clear indicators.
Question: Computers are developing very rapidly now, and every two or three years there is a new concept. The first month of studying this direction, maybe two or three months later a new direction appears, our research is outdated. May I ask Mr. Ren, how do we keep up with the trend of the times? Second, does Mr. Ren have any good suggestions on the cultivation of talents and guidance of students in colleges and universities?
Ren Zhengfei: The iteration speed of computers is much faster than the iteration speed of communication, not two or three generations after another, but two or three months, to feel the speed of change in the world. If you can't visit foreign websites, you can feel it on the "Huangdanian Tea House" technology website. Our employees read papers outside, and they post what they think is useful; If copyright issues are involved, the index will be taken off and you can find a way to see it yourself. The speed of change in the world will continue to be faster and faster, and the future world will be terrifying. Yuval Harari spoke at Davos that in the future man will be a slave to machines. The conference asked me questions, I can't answer, I am ignorant of social issues, I just say that when people die, there is no soul, talking about simulated souls. The actual digital soul will not be absent, it is inherited, and AI is subverting our past perceptions. Therefore, changes in human society are unimaginable, and if you want to perceive this change, you must read more literature.
I often tell our senior experts, can you work less, read the literature more, if you don't even know the direction, how to go the right way? You read the literature, and when you drink coffee, you may have inspired the people below. When I was younger, George Heiermeyer, a 69-year-old American, invented liquid crystals, and people painted a wall in the future. We hadn't even seen the TV set at that time, how can we understand the future, you think about how powerful this scientific prediction is! Now even the LCD wall has disappeared.