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In the history of the Three Kingdoms, compared to the Wei State and the Shu Kingdom, the scene of the Wu State is really a little embarrassing. This also makes many people ignore the talents of Wu Guo.
Among them, the two governors of Wu State, Zhou Yu and Lu Xun, became the focus of everyone's comparison, they both had proud achievements, but Zhou Yu died prematurely, and Lu Xun really failed to compete with him.
So today we will compare, in terms of the life deeds of Lu Xun and Zhou Yu, which of them has stronger military capabilities? If Zhou Yu is alive, what other scene is Lu Xun?
Different origins, different starting points
Since you want to compare Zhou Yu and Lu Xun, then you have to mention the origins of the two.
Zhou Yu's origin is very prominent, and the family is almost inseparable from the Han family and Yuan Shu, compared to the Sun family, Zhou Yu is much more prominent than them.
Of course, Zhou Yu can assist Sun Ce, largely because the two are friends of the general corner.
But to put it another way, according to Zhou Yu's origin, he actually doesn't have many choices.
First of all, most of the family is very close to Yuan Shu and the Han family, so his choice is only these two.
However, Zhou Yu did not want to take this path, so when Sun Ce was at his lowest, he chose to pull up a team to help Sun Ce.
From this point on, the relationship between the two was no longer a relationship between monarchs and subjects, but a cooperative relationship between those in power.
So we can always see that every time Sun Ce and Zhou Yu conquer a place, the spoils of both sides are almost equally divided, and even in choosing a wife, both of them are equally divided Big Qiao Xiao Qiao.
According to Sun Ce's words, this is the friendship of the total horn, the division of flesh and bone.
And this is Zhou Yu's biggest capital, in this extremely high entrepreneurial environment, Zhou Yu's voice in Eastern Wu is very high, even far higher than other generals who started businesses with Sun Ce.
This is also one of the reasons why, in the Battle of Chibi, Zhou Yu's generals were very good.
But Lu Xun is different, although Lu Xun comes from a famous family in Eastern Wu, his origin is far inferior to Zhou Yu, because there are almost no politicians in his family.
Although Lu Xun's family is rooted in the local area, there are basically no high-ranking officials, which also leads to the very strange reason why Lu Xun joined the Eastern Wu camp.
It is more appropriate to say that Lu Xun joined rather than that they were annexed.
When the Sun clan expanded, the famous families of Eastern Wu were naturally not willing to submit, so they had no military power in their hands, so they could only submit by force. Therefore, Lu Xun's reputation in the Soochow Group was not high at the beginning.
This point is very different from Zhou Yu, if Zhou Yu is a response, then Lu Xun is a small transparent from the beginning, just a secretary under Sun Quan.
If Zhou Yu was alive, it would be very simple for him to suppress Lu Xun, and it is even unknown whether there would be a follow-up battle of Yiling.
Of course, some people may say that Zhou Yu can respond without looking at it, but this is only when Sun Ce is alive.
After all, Sun Ce was friendly with Zhou Yu at that time, and the two of them could not care about the distinction between monarchs and courtiers, but in Sun Quan's generation, he was also trying to suppress Zhou Yu, and Zhou Yu's future life should be difficult.
But don't forget, Sun Quan's attitude towards Lu Xun is also very interesting, Sun Quan has been guarding against Lu Xun from beginning to end, I think this is inextricably related to Lu Xun's origin.
After all, when expanding, killing so many people from other families, Sun Quan would inevitably not suspect that Lu Xun would rebel after gaining the throne.
However, Zhou Yu is different, he is a collaborator, in fact, he can't reach this reverse word at all.
Therefore, Sun Quan may not like Zhou Yu, thinking that he is too arbitrary, but far from being jealous.
It can be seen that from the world, Zhou Yu is enough to crush Lu Xun.
But since today is about military talent, maybe Zhou Yu can suppress Lu Xun and make it impossible for him to emerge, but Zhou Yu is dead, who is stronger in military talent between them?
Military talent, masking weaknesses
Zhou Yu and Lu Xun both have very brilliant records, and Zhou Yu's most brilliant moment is the Battle of Chibi.
In the battle of Chibi, Zhou Yu, as the most typical main battle faction, he made an immortal contribution to the victory of the war.
From the beginning of the alliance between Sun and Liu to the progress and end of the campaign, Zhou Yu's coordination ability did not have any problems.
However, most of the reasons for disagreement with many people are because although Zhou Yu led the victory of the battle, his role in the middle was limited.
For example, Zhou Yu's fight against the yellow cover can be described as a turning point in the Battle of Chibi.
After Zhou Yu disposed of Huang Gai with bitter meat and military methods, Huang Gai pretended to defect to Cao Cao in a fit of anger, but in fact led the boat to attack Cao Cao by fire, which led the story of burning the chain ship.
From here, Zhou Yu's fight against Huang Gai is not Zhou Yu's idea, but Huang Gai's intention.
Zhou Yu is actually just the implementer of this strategic plan.
From here, if any of his subordinates came up with a plan, Zhou Yu just went to choose the best implementation, but he had no strategy.
If you have to say it, it is Zhou Lang's clever plan to settle the world, and he lost his wife and broke the army.
Of course, this did damage Zhou Yu's reputation. But this sentence is really okay overall, we look at the entire story of Zhou Yu overall, and we really can't find his particularly awesome conductor, and I am deflated almost every time.
However, don't forget Zhou Yu's official position, as the governor of the capital, he is like the second boss in the company, and he holds real power.
In fact, he does not need to intervene too much in many of the following things, as long as there is no problem with the direction of the big decision, his second boss is qualified.
Therefore, as a decision-maker, he is right to act in this way, which is a natural advantage brought by his origin.
It is true that Zhou Yu should take advantage of this advantage, as an entrepreneur, his role is even higher than that of Sun Ce.
After all, it was Zhou Yu who fully supported Sun Ce back then, so that Jiangdong has this situation.
Of course, some people will say, since Zhou Yu is so awesome, why don't you just do it, but also bend down to be a 10,000-year-old second? I cannot agree with that.
Liu Bei once said: "Gongjin is a man of great strength and strategy, and he is the hero of ten thousand people, so his arsenal is huge, and he may soon become a courtier." ”
This sentence has already pointed out that Zhou Yu has the capital to do it alone, but the cost of going it alone in ancient times is very high, and it is not at all something that ordinary people can do.
In the entrepreneurial experiences of various princes in the late Eastern Han Dynasty, we can see that there are basically only three ways to go.
First of all, you have to be royalty. Typical is the Liu Group, of which Liu Bei is the most classic, a little under the banner of Uncle Liu, many people will follow.
After all, you are the orthodox royal family, you have a well-known name in the troubled times, and your name is justified, Kuang Fu Han Family, this is the dream of many people.
Either you have to have a family that divides one side. Here Ma Teng and Cao Cao are very classic cases.
Ma Teng as the leader of Western Liang, people in the land of Western Liang is the head snake, even if he loses the battle outside, he is still the leader when he retreats, and if the foundation is not damaged, he still has a place.
If the first two points are absent, then enough family fame is also fine. For example, the brothers Yuan Shu and Yuan Shao, with the family lineage of the "fourth and third princes", can command the crowd, this natural advantage is not available to others.
It can be seen that Zhou Yu's family life is indeed good, but he can't stand the "three immortals" of others.
Sun Ce occupies the second point, so his entrepreneurship will be simpler, and Zhou Yu can only stoop to become an investor.
In this way, Zhou Yu used his family lineage to cover up the weakness of his military talent that was indeed weak.
But on the whole, Zhou Yu did not have any problems overall, and there was no major mistake in strategy. But Lu Xun looked a little embarrassed.
Talent is prominent, weakness is prominent
Lu Xun's military talent is undoubtedly outstanding, and it can be seen from the battle of Yiling that Lu Xun has very powerful insight.
He could see at a glance where the weakness of Liu Bei's group was, so he magnified and defeated Liu Bei in one fell swoop. And from the perspective of the overall war process, Lu Xun's rhythm is also very in place.
From the beginning of the Battle of Yiling, after Lu Xun took over as the governor of Dadu, the offensive of Liu Bei's group was gradually frustrated.
In the face of the powerful offensive of the Shu army, Lu Xun began to avoid its edge, relying on geographical advantages to resist layer by layer, and warned the generals to avoid a decisive battle with the Shu army.
This made the Battle of Yiling gradually turn from a rout at the beginning to a stalemate.
From the beginning of the first month to June, Liu Bei's group almost had no way to take Lu Xun, the iron king, and Lu Xun directly destroyed Liu Bei's desire to use his absolute superiority to defeat Wu Guo in one fell swoop.
And in the process of Liu Bei's anxiety, Lu Xun began to seek a way to break the enemy, and finally let him seize the opportunity.
After Liu Bei's general camp was united, Lu Xun chose to burn the company camp and defeated the Shu army. It can be seen from this that Lu Xun's military talent is very prominent, and he is very clear from the formulation and direction of strategy.
And he is also very strong in the overall situation, he has a keen insight into Liu Bei's intention to fight a quick victory, and knows that Liu Bei will definitely expose the problem under the procrastination, so as to defeat it in one fell swoop.
In this regard, Lu Xun is much stronger than Zhou Yu, but the more talented the person, his weakness is also very obvious.
Lu Xun and Zhou Yu are completely different, one is an entrepreneur, and the other is a person who has been promoted.
Therefore, Lu Xun's personal ability is undoubtedly strong, otherwise Sun Quan would not favor this person. But the more such a person is, the more he wants to show himself in important situations.
We cannot deny that Lu Xun is a talented person who is both civil and martial, but in the same way, his fate is also destined to be very tragic.
Because this kind of person is the most difficult to control, he is not like Zhou Yu, as one of the major shareholders, as long as Jiang Dong is good, no matter how he shows himself, he will not end up miserable.
Before the Battle of Yiling, no one wanted to listen to Lu Xun. This is also why Lu Xun needs to try his best to suppress the decisive battle of the generals.
Of course, in the end his intention was right, but at the same time he offended many people, and such a brilliant talent, not relenting will make those in power scared.
Therefore, Lu Xun's weakness lies in his strength being too strong and not knowing it, and his status is different but ambitious.
Therefore, even if his military talent is indeed higher than Zhou Yu, his status will not pose any threat to Zhou Yu. If Zhou Yu was still there, suppressing Lu Xun was a very simple matter.
Of course, some people say that Zhou Yu is the most politically minded person, can he suppress Lu Xun?
Political talent, strategic vision
Zhou Yu's lack of political acumen is undoubtedly a fallacy. From the end of the Battle of Chibi, Zhou Yu had made a very great plan for Eastern Wu, that is, to occupy the south of the Yangtze River.
According to Zhou Yu's thoughts at that time, after the Battle of Chibi, Liu Bei was immediately placed under house arrest, and at the same time annexed Liu Bei's group, and the army was directed at Yizhou.
After taking Yizhou, he and Cao Cao ruled the river, so that it became two parts of the world, and Wei and Wu fought for hegemony.
This strategic plan failed from the later plot, but the reasons for the failure are understandable.
Zhuge Liang is not a fool, since he wants to divide the world, he also knows very well.
After the Battle of Chibi, he took Jingzhou in an all-round way and took Yizhou with Jingzhou as a springboard, so that he could satisfy the three-point world, so he must always be wary of Zhou Yu.
It can be said that whether Zhou Yu is conspiracy or Yang conspiracy, in fact, Zhuge Liang has begun to beware of follow-up progress.
It is already difficult for Zhou Yu to get a head start on Zhuge Liang, if it is a sneak attack, I think there is definitely a chance, but under the complete defense of others, it is difficult.
Therefore, the reason why Zhou Yu was frustrated everywhere is also here, if Zhuge Liang was not by Liu Bei's side back then, then Liu Bei's situation would be very ugly.
No matter whether Zhou Yu can digest Liu Bei's group or not, even if he kills them all, as long as he occupies Jingzhou to hoard materials, such a fat place, Zhou Yu will have the ability to attack Yizhou within a year.
At this time, Cao Cao was still recuperating, and even if Zhou Yu spent a lot of effort to attack Yizhou, even at a great cost, it was not a big problem, because Zhou Yu had enough capital.
Liu Bei can take Yizhou, Zhou Yu does not necessarily have problems, as long as the logistics and military resources are sufficient.
However, it can only be said that Zhou Yu met Zhuge Liang, and he gained insight into Zhou Yu's intentions, which ultimately failed.
Lu Xun is different, although he is also facing Liu Bei's group, but Zhuge Liang is not by Liu Bei's side, Liu Bei's strategic vision is already limited, plus Lu Xun is not bad, which makes Lu Xun steal chickens.
If you really want to confront Zhuge Liang, Lu Xun is not necessarily Zhuge Liang's opponent.
And in terms of political talent, Lu Xun is also very embarrassed, as we just said, as long as Zhou Yu wants to suppress Lu Xun, Lu Xun can't raise his head politically.
And due to the problem of his background, Zhou Yu must have favorable conditions politically, after all, the identity of the entrepreneur is here. Lu Xun was far less than Zhou Yu.
Of course, both men have a political fault, that is, they are highly successful.
Zhou Yu fortunately said that Sun Quan was really not good at sanctioning him during that period, but Lu Xun was different, he still dared to do so without a gold medal to avoid death.
So judging from the final result, Zhou Yu could be regarded as sick and dead, and Lu Xun was very sorry. When Sun Quan is old, he is sexually jealous and too murderous, then Lu Xun will not have a better ending.
epilogue
From the comparison between Zhou Yu and Lu Xun, we can see that Zhou Yu may really be inferior to Lu Xun in terms of talent, but in terms of strategic vision, Zhou Yu has a very grand plan and has a good chance of implementing it smoothly.
It is a pity that Zhou Yu's plan did not come true in the end, but this strategy was proposed by an excellent military expert, even if it was not realized.
Compared with Zhou Yu, Lu Xun's military talent is indeed outstanding, but I think he is just a very good general, Wen Neng's pen to calm the world, and martial arts can be a talent who can make things happen. However, Lu Xun is not as good as Zhou Yu, this point is absolute.