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The 2021 Spring Festival has come to an end, although the box office battle for movies is not over.
Among the 7 movies in the Spring Festival file, it was originally given high hopes by all parties, the pre-sale of the film broke 1 billion, and the box office broke 3 billion "Detective Chinatown 3" (hereinafter referred to as "Tang Detective 3") three or four days before the release.
As a result, I did not expect that the film would collapse due to quality reasons, resulting in a sharp drop in the box office of the film.
In the end, Jia Ling's "Hello Li Huanying" box office counterattack became the first.
Recently, the film held a publicity meeting in Beijing, and the creator and the audience had a face-to-face exchange.
Chen Sicheng answered some of the audience's questions, and at the same time answered a lot of questions about "Tang Detective 3" and the difficulties of filming, the most important thing is to reveal some plans of "Tang Detective 4".
For example, the place where "Tang Detective 4" took place can be basically determined to be In London, England.
For example, Andy Lau, the Q organization boss who appeared last in "Tang Detective 3", is likely to appear in "Tang Detective 4".
The Qin Feng kiko revealed before may have emotional dramas and the like, and the specific can only depend on how Chen Sicheng and his entire team plan.
Bo Guangjun is not talented, in order to watch the "Tang Detective" series and a little shallow observation of the film and television industry at home and abroad. Here are a few suggestions for "Tang Detective 4", please ask director Chen Sicheng to see if there is any reason.
What is the rot of "Tang Detective 3"?
Now Internet public opinion is saying that "Tang Detective 3" is very bad?
But have you ever wondered where this movie really sucks?
The main reason is the imbalance in the treatment of the two elements of the "Tang Detective" series, the reasoning element + the comedy element. At the same time, with the implantation of madness of advertising, a variety of elements are stuffed into it.
As a result, the originally weak comedy + reasoning elements have completely become a hodgepodge.
The problem of these two elements will not be analyzed in detail, because the Internet has already been overwhelming. Compared to reasoning + comedy, I personally feel that "Tang Detective 3" has a really fatal problem.
That is, the third part deconstructs the most essential things of the first two parts.
I. The most core keyword of the "Tang Detective" series: "Perfect Crime"
This "perfect crime" runs through the entire "Tang Detective" series, and it is the spiritual world of the characters, or the background setting, world view setting, and so on.
When Qin Feng was a child, his father wanted to rob the bank and let Qin Feng count people outside, and as a result, Qin Feng's father was arrested because of qin feng's greed.
The talented teenager Qin Feng could have been successfully admitted to the police academy, but when he faced the examiner, he said that he had to complete the "perfect crime" and failed, and then went to Thailand to play before meeting Tang Ren.
Although Qin Feng has not completed the "perfect crime", the first two "Tang Detective" Qin Feng have fought with the villains of the "perfect crime".
The first two parts of "Tang Detective" have a bright line and a dark line, and the dark line villains have finally completed the "perfect crime", although they were exposed by Qin Feng, but there was no way to do justice.
In "Tang Detective 1", the Ming line case is Si Nuo, played by Zhang Zifeng, who induces his adoptive father to kill Dan's father.
The reason is that Dan, who is good friends with Snow, disappears, and Dan's father tracks Downar because of his son, and Snow finds out and uses his adoptive father, who has perverted feelings for him, to kill Dan's father.
The dark line is the boy Dan with Snow, whether he is dead or missing without giving an explanation.
Although there are many analyses on the Internet, it is clearly a cultural interpretation.
Anyway, Hosno completed the "perfect crime".
"Tang Detective 2" Ming Line is a villain surgeon played by Michael Pitt, who learned a Chinese Taoist half-hanging son, using the "Yin and Yang Five Elements" to kill people and try to cultivate immortals.
The dark line is Song Yi, played by Xiao Yang, who used the "hitchhiking killing" method to kill Lu Guofu and other traffickers.
The reason is that Song Yi's sister disappeared in Chinatown, and in the end, Song Yi's sister was the same as the teenager Dan in the first part, and what the result was not explained.
In addition, it is lvy rose played by Zhang Junning, the villain of the "Tang Detective" web drama.
Although her purpose has not yet been explained in the web drama, she used beauty to successfully deceive people into selling their lives for her, tricking the male protagonist Lin Mo, played by Qiu Ze, to get rid of Wen Song, who thought it was a "smiley face".
In fact, lvy is the real "smiley face", and finally defrauded the rich of a large amount of money and successfully escaped.
Arguably, Lvy also completed a "perfect crime."
Second, the most core related word of the "Tang Detective" series: "Q"
In addition to the imbalance of the two elements, the most failed part of the third part is the mystery of "Q".
Many people might immediately say that because "Q" is not a person, but an organization is a failure?
The answer is just the opposite, because "Tang Detective 3" is the summary work of the first trilogy series, and at the same time, it also has to serve as the heavy responsibility of "Tang Detective Universe".
If the "Marvel Universe" is the case with "Avengers 1".
"Q" is not a person but a villain organization, and this treatment is rather "stroke of Genius", and it must be handled in this way.
Because "Tang Detective" wants to become a big villain in the "movie universe" can't stand up, it has a group of detective protagonists, it must have a group of villains, and eventually there must be a villain organization.
The biggest failure of "Tang Detective 3" is that Naoji Tanaka, played by Tadashi Nozato, rushed to get on the horse and actually became the villain "Q" of the third part.
1. In the murder case of Ming line in the movie, Tanaka Naoji did not have much sense of participation.
In addition to the jokes of the hospital's contribution, to the scene where Akira Murata kidnaps Kobayashi to test Qin Feng.
In the murder of this bright line, the role of this character is weak to the point.
The characters also appear in the background of "Japan's young generation of police geniuses", and the subsequent plot is not shown, resulting in the lack of charm as the main villain of this episode, Q.
2, such an unattractive character, when revealing the mystery, has no sense of impact on the audience
In fact, the character of Q only appeared in "Tang Detective 2" in the form of a detective software ranking. Netizens have had countless discussions around who this character really is.
Naoji Tanaka did not have the foreshadowing of the previous game, and the third part did not have the shape of fighting wits and courage with a certain detective.
When "Tang Detective 3" finally revealed that he was actually the "Q" of this part, the audience did not have the emotional impact of "Ah, it was him, he was a good cow x".
For example, Now Tanaka Naoji is not popular among the characters, which shows how unsuccessful this role is.
According to the plot and setting of the "Tang Detective" series, I personally have thought about who is the most appropriate to appear as the "Q" of the third part, and probably these three people will be better.
One is Snow, but in my case she is the weakest reason for "Q".
Because she is already the "perfect criminal" in "Tang Detective 1", there is a "perfect criminal" in a movie.
Moreover, Si Nuo and Qin Feng have a wonderful connection that is close and close, plus she is now a talented and beautiful girl who has just grown up.
This kind of "uncertain" genius role, which is an excellent plug-in for subsequent roles in the "Movie Universe", certainly cannot be set to her identity now.
In the same way, Song Yi in the second part cannot appear.
The second is Noda Hao, who is one of the best candidates.
According to the "Tang Detective" series Q has the setting of "Perfect Crime", the third part happens to take place in Japan. Noda's family is powerful in Tokyo, and it is normal to clash with another big power, Watanabe Katsuya's gang.
The conflict between the two major forces made Noda Hao take action, and the failure of the family major event had a huge impact.
In this way, you can take the opportunity to shape the background of detective Noda Hao, the reason why he committed the crime, etc. (in fact, there is no conflict).
Therefore, Noda Hao deliberately framed Watanabe Katsu in order to achieve a "perfect crime" of his own, and then rectified the "Japanese Lab Honge Case" that was not low in level.
At that time, the bright line is the murder case of Qin Feng and Tang Ren breaking Watanabe Katsumi; the dark line is Noda Hao's "perfect crime".
When Qin Feng finally solved the case like the first two films, Noda Hao explained the reason for his completion of the "perfect crime".
In the end, Noda Hao recruited Qin Feng into the Q Organization with the state of Qin Feng and himself, and then attacked qin feng with the idea that Qin Feng wanted to "perfect crime".
In the end, it was not completed because of Tang Ren's appearance.
The third is Qin Feng's father, and I think this person is the best.
All of Qin Feng's motives were because of his father, because he had no one to cause his father to be imprisoned.
This has become Qin Feng's inner demon, so Qin Feng wants to complete the "perfect crime".
As for how Father Qin appeared?
Or because the "Tang Detective 1" Q organization found Si Nuo, but Si Nuo recommended a more suitable Qin Feng. Or "Tang Detective 2" Song Yi recommended Qin Feng in the organization.
At this time, Qin Feng's father had been released from prison, and the Q organization directly found Qin Feng in order to recruit Qin Feng.
The storyline of "Tang Detective 3" is now handled in this way (of course, the comedy and reasoning elements should be done well), and when the mystery is finally revealed, it is Father Qin, who says: Xiao Feng, I don't blame you for the things when I was a child, don't you always want to complete a "perfect crime"? I'm giving you that opportunity now.
Qin Feng did not agree, the reason was because of his uncle Tang Ren, who had always been "watching".
In the end, Father Qin will definitely succeed in escaping, and he is a member of the top management of the Q Organization. This leads to the entire massive Q Organization, where each villain completes some sort of "perfect crime" setting.
Qin Feng not only has the real reason for facing his "heart demon", but also the practical motive for eradicating this "large transnational illegal and criminal organization".
In the future "Tang Detective" movie, every detective protagonist will have to face such a villain. (Song Yi of "Tang Detective 2", lvy character of "Tang Detective" web drama has been established).
Snow is still as good as it is now, and it is best for such a popular character to be unknown for good and evil.
How to shoot "Tang Detective 4" and "Movie Universe"
Now "Tang Detective 3" is not very friendly to the entire "movie universe".
The problems of the film itself will not be repeated, but the "perfect crime" and "Q" organizational arrangements are chaotic.
The connection between the detective protagonists and the villain organization is too weak, and now in addition to the protagonists of the "Tang Detective" web drama Lin Mo and lvy, you will find that other detective protagonists actually have no reason to "dry up Q".
If Q in the third part is two characters according to my personal vision.
If it is a Qin father:
The conflict between the two male protagonists, Qin Feng, Tang Ren and the Q Organization, was established.
Of course, Qin Feng needless to say, Tang Ren could have saved his cousin-in-law and the reason for saving his cousin's family happiness.
If it is Noda Hao:
Qin Feng also needless to say, so he had a connection with Noda Hao'er of the "Five Spirit Boys".
In this way, it is not certain that the "Five Spirit Children of the Peace Elite" can still be saved, after all, Noda Haoji, who has always been inferior to his brother, is now fighting against his brother and then saving his brother.
But now "Tang Detective 3" has been filmed like this?
How to deal with "Tang Detective 4" is very critical, especially if Andy Lau appears in "Tang Detective 4", he even becomes the main villain and finally appears.
The persona of this role, along with the structural interpretation of the worldview and organization, may play a crucial role.
However, I personally made a few suggestions for "Tang Detective 4".
1, villain construction: Andy Lau is still the best cameo
This is similar to the way the villain of "Avengers" than Thanos appeared.
He is the big boss of this organization, and he has guided the major Q in the world to do all kinds of illegal and criminal things in the early stage.
The key prop for Thanos' connection with various villains and superheroes is the "Space Gem", and the villains of the "Tang Detective" series are "Perfect Crime".
Andy Lau's setting and identity have a certain account, but do not need to account for it all.
When the independent film of several other detectives is completed, the image of the detective protagonist is completely erected; and then the purpose of the villain and organization is set up, and finally the whole staff of "Tang Detective 4" assembles to fight the big boss Andy Lau.
2. Detective construction: Detectives must disrupt the reorganization
Since then, Tang Ren, Qin Feng and other detectives have appeared at the same time as "Tang Detective Zheng biography".
Other detective protagonists of the film is "Tang Detective Wai Biography", and the detectives who appear now are: Qin Feng, Tang Ren, Lin Mo, Jack Jia, Noda Hao, Kiko, the Five Spirit Boys of Asia, the second passerby detective and so on
The second passerby detective, at present, there is no need to shape.
Now "Tang Detective 3" is filmed like this, and the five spirit children of the peace elite must die——
Kiko can appear as an important female character, and whether the detective protagonist alone can stand up to be shaped. (She and Qin Feng have a sense of CP, if she and Qin Feng are paired, is it a romance + reasoning?) ）
The remaining five detectives can really break up and reorganize at will.
Moreover, the combination of two and two with distinct personalities and a strong sense of contradiction together, and considering that it is a Chinese film, it is best to arrange a Chinese protagonist.
Personally, I think the most suitable combination is probably as follows:
Qin Feng and Noda Hao, Qin Feng and Jack Jia
Tang Ren and Jack Jia, Lin Mo and Jack Jia, Lin Mo and Noda Hao, etc.
In this follow-up movie, it is natural to add one or two detectives with distinct personalities.
It is best to be the mode of two detective protagonists, to solve and enrich the detective protagonist's personality and background, and the connection with the detective and the villain organization is a top priority.
3, the style must be changed: must not be limited to reasoning + comedy
Since the major detective protagonists have been disrupted and reorganized, the style of a single detective movie must be changed.
Each superhero in the "Marvel Universe" has a different independent film style, Iron Man is more sci-fi, Captain America is more war action movie, Thor is a Western myth, Doctor Strange is a magic movie, Ant-Man is a micro science fiction gimmick, "Guardians of the Galaxy" is a "space opera" and so on.
The current "Tang Detective" series is all comedy + reasoning.
The next detective breaks up and reorganizes the "Tang Detective's Outer Biography", the style can be action + reasoning.
For example, Lin Mo and Jack Jia are paired, Lin Mo likes to solve problems with reasoning, and Jack Jia uses force to solve problems.
Under the guarantee that Lin Mo's reasoning part is not weak, simply make Jack Jia's part into a "Hong Kong action movie" (Jack Jia's corresponding villain Q is a kung fu master), Lin Mo complains that violence cannot solve the problem.
When it is finally revealed that Jack Jia solves the villain Q, Jack Ja finally solves the problem by force.
This detective was set up and also won the respect of Lin Mo.
The matching of Qin Feng and Jack Jia is the same (but the cp sense of the two is currently weak).
If Tang Ren and Jack Jia are combined, it will be completely shot in the direction of "action movies"; the two will play Chinese kung fu and muay Thai, and they will look up to each other in kung fu (but it is difficult to solve reasoning).
This is a real advantage, because the decline of Chinese action movies is too serious now.
Qin Feng and Noda Hao, or combined with Lin Mo, simply filmed into a very pure suspense + reasoning.
Suspense and reasoning are incomparably hardcore, hardcore to not lose "Tang Detective 1" or even better, it directly breaks through the limits of Chinese reasoning films.
This "Tang Detective Biography" may be inferior at the box office, but the quality of word-of-mouth is absolutely explosive.
4. Director team: Chen Sicheng retreated behind the scenes to control the overall situation
According to the above two suggestions, think of the current director team known to Chen Sicheng.
Now the action film team is still unclear, suspense + reasoning already has a ready-made team, directly the director of "Manslaughter" Ke Wenli to correct ah!
As long as this movie is made at the level of "Manslaughter", the quality, word of mouth and box office are absolutely explosive!
In addition, it is also possible to correct the team of Yao Wenyi, the director of the second case of the "Tang Detective" web drama, but his style is biased towards strangeness + reasoning, but there is no suitable detective protagonist now.
Tang Ren and Jack Jia are obviously inappropriate, and Lin Mo's web drama has already been filmed.
Either Qin Feng began to fall in love, or he explained the emotional part of Noda Hao.
As for the director team of the third story of the "Tang Detective" web series.
The five spiritual children of the peace elite must die——
End
At this Beijing meeting, Chen Sicheng's statement and Bo Guangjun's suggestion have many places of convergence.
For example, Chen Si said that he would make other detective-based movies, no longer dominated by Tang Ren Qinfeng; then some family elements would be withdrawn, and some big action scenes would become more genre-oriented. Film investment will be reduced, and it may go to other slots, which will meet the needs of different audiences to find different things they like in different movies.
Of course, the project of the film is very complicated, everything is a game of all parties, planning the layout and then implementing the process.
The above are All of Bo Guangjun's own shallow suggestions, I don't know if everyone thinks it makes sense.
If everyone thinks it makes sense, let Chen Sicheng see if it is useful!