Note: The following analysis only represents the personal views of the landlord, the landlord's writing is very bad, do not like to spray, thank you!
I wrote this analysis because I saw that many people recently wondered why Ace died without knowing Saab, and Saab's side was because of amnesia, and the risk factors of the pirate era that had to be erased were previously thought to be eight pirates who could not be beaten.
(Manga 794, Saab's memories)
In the past, the landlord has also posted to ask similar questions, but everyone's answers seem to be similar, (not the answer I want orz) This analysis may be to write everyone's common answers as questions to analyze and answer them one by one.
The landlord will not write an analysis, but thinking that he is an ASL push, the study of ASL three people is more thinking that he can write this analysis, if there is a mistake or omission, please point out the big guy ...
The reason why this analysis was named "Clouds Cover the Moon, It Is Difficult to Meet" is because the landlord feels that Ace and Saab, a good brother who went to sea together, obviously both alive but never saw each other again, just like Calgra and Noland, who were separated by the rushing currents, were ruthlessly tricked by fate, leaving regrets that could no longer be recovered.
First of all, Ace clearly does not know that The information that Saab is still alive is a sentence in the last words of Ace to Luffy before he died in the comic 574, he said, "If there is no Saab thing, and your uneasy brother, I probably don't want to live."
(Manga 574, Ace's last words)
Although Ace did not say "If it weren't for Saab's death", if he could know that Saab was still alive, he should also be relieved to entrust Luffy to Saab, and his two sentences would probably change accordingly. Moreover, most of what Ace said before he died was his own regrets, juxtaposed with the latter sentence "unassured brother", which means that "Saab's incident" is still his "regret", so he has to say it in his last words, which proves that Ace really did not know that Saab was still alive.
Ace then dies, never to see Saab, who is actually alive.
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The next step is to start with Ace's description and clues about the irrationality of his failure to know Saab's news.
1. Is Ace really as ill-informed as Luffy? Doesn't he usually understand the state of the world?
I thought the same thing before, but when I saw Ace's conversation with Yamato in the 999 episode of the manga, a big question mark was raised.
(Manga 999 words, Yamato's Memories)
Yamato asks Ace what rookies are on the sea, and apart from Cavendish's name Ace who didn't say it all (because Cavendish's name is really hard to remember), Ace said it all, Kidd, Rowe, Becky, and even their origins Ace remembered.
So did Ace really know nothing about the situation at sea? Apparently not.
2. But the revolutionary army is very mysterious, and it is reasonable for Ace to know the situation of the pirates and not to know the situation of the revolutionary army, right?
In the 525 episode of the comic, after Ace was arrested, in a conversation with Karp, Karp said to Ace, "I told Luffy about his father", and Ace said without thinking, "That kind of thing is a trouble, Luffy and I have inherited the blood of world-class criminals"
(Manga 525 episodes, Escamp's dialogue in prison)
This conversation proves that Ace knows what the Revolutionary Army is doing, and what kind of character Luffy and his father dragon really are, even before the top war reveals Luffy's life.
3. Maybe Ace only knew that the big organization of the revolutionary army itself and the leader were dragons, and the rest didn't know anything else? Or is it because Saab didn't become famous at that time, so Ace didn't know him? Maybe Saab only became famous in these two years, right? Saab is not relatively low-key, is not too many people who are bounty not cared...
We turned to saab's side of the situation,
In episode 737-738 of the anime Saab Memories,
(Although there is an original plot, but it is supervised by Oda, it can be regarded as a positive part, after all, Saab's plot manga is too little to talk about, but Oda wants to talk about it, so Oda can't finish it in SBS.)
(80 volumes of SBS, Oda explains the past of Saab, Kerla, and Haku)
So I added it in the anime, just like the content of the current Wazuno Kuni anime is also supplemented by the official and Oda opinions.
As for why it is Oda Supervisor, there is also evidence, in this post on the forum: [TalkOP Hanhua] 737 episodes of animation original! The script that Oda Sensei personally supervised was released)
5 years ago, when Ace was famously invited by the government to be the Seven Wu Sea, Saab had already learned of his information, and Saab's companions also said that Saab had left a great legacy at a young age and would soon lead the revolutionary army in the future, but at sea you have a guy who is as strong as you... (It's Ace)
(Anime 737 episodes of original content, Saab chats with comrades of the Revolutionary Army)
I speculate that this episode shows that Saab became famous at that time, not within two years, (and Saab was already famous as chief of staff at the time of the war, as will be said later), "leaving a lot of credit", no matter how you say it, it is impossible to remain obscure. Ace's record that year was brilliant and very famous, and Saab was able to rank with him in the mouth of his partners, and his fame should not be small. Both of them were only seventeen years old, and they had made a name for themselves, and since their partners were expecting Saab to soon lead the revolutionary army, Saab's strength should be infinitely close to that of the dragon, so I think it should be impossible for Saab to have too many rewarders to stand out.
In Ace's case, he should have learned about this young man who was just as good as he was. According to his conversation with Yamato, it is not that he is not uninterested in the information of his contemporaries and descendants at sea, but he does not know Saab.
On the other hand, from the inside of the animation, Saab is not as deeply hidden as we think. He was so strong at a young age, and he loved to express himself, and he was not so low-key. So in fact, it is difficult for him to hide himself. I think it is only a matter of time before saab becomes famous.
(Anime 737 episodes of original content, 17-year-old Saab.) At that time, Saab was actually very popular, and Kerla and Haku were very speechless. ）
And, although it is not known when he became the chief of staff, Saab was already the chief of staff of the Revolutionary Army 2 years ago, when he was on the top war (and possibly even before), and the animation explains that Saab was on a mission during the top war, and did not return to Baldigo for a month, guessing that he had become the chief of staff at least a month ago (?). During this time, Ace's pursuit of Blackbeard must have been well-informed, and it was difficult not to know about Saab.
(The anime is 738 episodes of original content, and after the war, Saab and Kirla return to Baldigo, where they are spoken to by their Revolutionary Army partners.) ）
While this can only be said to be speculation, the combination of this evidence makes it hard not to believe that Saab is not so famous.
Everyone in Tokushima knew Saab, but because there was nothing to talk about here two years later, I would not repeat it.
epilogue:
In fact, according to these clues, this line is already difficult to circle. Although Saab is not a pirate, he is also a prominent figure at sea, let alone the same age as Ace, coupled with the intelligence network of the Whitebeard Regiment, (since Whitebeard can see Ace in the newspaper that year, then Saab is the same), not only knows about the supernova at sea, but also knows about the revolutionary army. But if you want to round this line, you can only forcibly say that Ace has only heard a little about the revolutionary army, and I don't know anything at a deep level, and I think it is not very consistent with Ace's personality.
In fact, Ace failed to know Saab, knowing that he is still alive has no impact on the main line of the plot, saab amnesia that year, although he did not come to the top of the war to save people, but it is also very forced, then the follow-up series of problems, may be more difficult to circle. Long comics have more or less unexplained bugs, which is also the norm. Saab may indeed be a character added later instead of thinking about it at the beginning, and it is inevitable that it is a bit difficult for Oda to put all the pits on the circle. Don't ask, ask is the need of the plot, tangled in this plot is not very meaningful, I think I can convince myself: because of all kinds of misunderstandings and misses, Ace and Saab are so sorry to miss each other. (As everyone says, it's even a bit ridiculous: Saab's bounty order is problematic, Ace thinks Saab is someone with the same name, and so on.) ）
I guess that's the fate of Ace and Saab, once the cloud (Oda) covers the moon (Ace knows saab is still alive), they will never meet again.
Whenever I read this title, my heart will be very sad. I think that Calgara, who was already on the empty island, thought about how bitter it was to find out in Noland in Qinghai, and Noland did not know the truth of the facts until he died, just like Saab said, "I have been thinking about what kind of mood that guy left the world", the deceased died with regret, and the heart of the living is even more painful, and the heavens and people are eternally separated, and they will never see each other again in this life.
Of course it would be better if there were more persistent brothers who wanted to go to SBS and ask, haha. If Oda can stamp this problem, it would be best orz.
Hopefully, there really is such an if line, in that world line, just like Oda's painting, and not Luffy Saab's dream; Ace is really not dead, Ace also learns that Saab is still alive, and after Saab recovers his memory, the three of them can raise a glass again.
Being an ASL kitchen crap is too much, thanks for watching.
(Imaginary plot drawn by Oda in the 20th anniversary of OPM.) ）