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Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

After going to Japan after the Spring Festival, it was difficult to explain to my friends the first purpose of my rush to Tokyo - to see the release of Lou Ye's movie "A Cloud Made of Rain in the Wind" (hereinafter referred to as "Wind and Rain Clouds").

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

(△ This film slogan: will pass, forgotten)

This is a belated reflection, but the following information points were taken immediately after leaving the movie theater in Tokyo at the end of January. I don't rule out that there are still mistakes, and I look forward to the day when everyone can see the full movie, maybe you will help me correct my mistakes.

I liked "Stormy Clouds" when it was released in China four years ago, but it was also very clear that this was a modified version. For example, we all know that Edison Chen participated, and he became a person who did not exist in the film. There are also people who have deduced from the scattered materials that Lian Ayun, played by Chen Yanxi, stood up after being "thrown and burned" and so on.

I used to think that because I knew or analyzed a lot of what the original looked like, looking at the full book was just to fill in the gaps, but it would not be a big difference.

But, the difference is still big!

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

(△February is my first time out after the epidemic, and the most important thing is this)

The following is only a comparison between the domestic version and the full book, and will not repeat the existing basic plot of the domestic version.

First of all, Ashimoto gives people the feeling that the story thread is very clear. If your impression of the domestic version is "incomprehensible" and "unclear", then look at the full book and the whole perception will be clear.

(Although, if it is a crime theme, the logic is always a little weak, as if I don't ask for this.) )

The second is the line of "hell lovers", which is still good looking.

In 2019, my impression of the domestic version of "Stormy Clouds" is that "adapting it into a black TV series may have high ratings", especially the threesome relationship in the plot, which reminds me of the common "mistress holding" in corruption and anti-black stories - that is, the eldest brother's woman will be handed over to Ma Zi to take care of, or even marry for the sake of care.

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

Another name of the movie is "Hell Lovers", and I originally put this title completely into the "corruption terrier" to understand, but in fact, it is more than that.

Ashimoto's film has more violent footage of Zhang Songwen (Tang Yijie) against Song Jia (Lin Hui). The domestic version deleted these violence, in fact, it also deleted the psychological distortion of Zhang Songwen's character.

The domestic version gives me the feeling that Zhang Songwen, as Ma Zi, "surrogates" the lover of the boss Qin Hao (Jiang Zicheng) and marries her, probably because Qin Hao broke off contact in Taiwan and lost patience with this woman, so Song Jia went to a psychiatric hospital. But it is also possible that Song Jia's mental condition is not very good? After all, Qin Hao abandoned her. This paragraph is very vague.

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

In the footbook, Zhang Songwen, who married Song Jia, always felt very humiliated, and the inferiority of men turned into violence against women, beatings and psychological abuse of Song Jia. Obviously, Song Jia's mental integrity was forcibly sent to a psychiatric hospital, and her tragic situation is particularly clear in the footbook. I even feel guilty, why I haven't carefully pondered, Song Jia can't see any signs of madness in the plot of the whole film, she must have been abandoned and thrown into the madhouse, which is very cruel.

Domestic version, after Qin Hao returned from Taiwan, he continued to steal fun with Song Jia, Zhang Songwen felt this, so after Song Jia and Qin Hao dated, when he returned home, Zhang Songwen had a short scene of arguing with Song Jia in the bathroom, and several actions were deleted here: Zhang Songwen scalded Song Jia with a cigarette butt, Song Jia was terrified after being hurt, but the first reaction was to reach out and touch Zhang Songwen's crotch to please him. - The deletion is very short, but the deletion means a lot.

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

The next deletion about Zhang Songwen is how "absurd" the picture of him singing on KTV is, and the girls who accompany the singing are pulled down their underwear from their skirts one by one. More importantly, it is clear that he raped Chen Yanxi (Lian Ayun), Song Jia's daughter Xiaonuo (adult Xiaonuo is played by Ma Sichun), and witnessed this rape.

These deleted parts are very important, although some people always say that Lou Ye has no logic, the footbook of "Wind and Rain Clouds" is very rich and intriguing in the plot of the line of "Hell Lover", and there is nothing so-called "incomprehensible".

The key to the whole film is that Chen Yanxi was murdered by the trio, and the key to killing is that Chen Yanxi wants to withdraw from the interest group and break the net without giving sufficient conditions.

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

Chen Yanxi played by the Taiwanese singer Ayun, does not care about Qin Hao and her lover (Song Jia), she personally went to pay the psychiatric hospital to take Song Jia out, she has a tenderness beyond personal grudges for Song Jia and Qin Hao's daughter Xiaonuo, purely as a woman's motherhood and love for the little girl.

But what made her collapse in this "hell lover" structure was that she was insulted and raped by Zhang Songwen in person, and Qin Hao was indifferent.

Let's talk about Zhang Songwen's psychology. There has always been a question about "Wind and Rain Clouds" before that why it is presented that the businessman (Qin Hao) controls the official (Zhang Songwen), which is not in line with everyone's perception of corruption stories.

I think there are two aspects, one is that in the so-called era of the need to attract investment, the need to open projects, and the desire for development, Taiwan businessmen's funds still have to be fought for, and they have advocated being friends with foreign businessmen. Second, with the development of his career, everyone has become rich, Zhang Songwen, as an official in charge of real estate, his position and power are definitely rising, and his mentality has also changed, which is reflected in his tolerance of "green hats" and his catharsis of sex. Sex has never been just sex, especially for men, sex is power.

Deleting Zhang Songwen's distorted scenes makes it easy for the audience to lose their observation of this character.

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

Initially, Zhang Songwen had to pick up his wife (the other party's lover) from the mental hospital, and without this woman, he might not be Qin Hao's alliance. Giving his wife to form an alliance is a must, but Zhang Songwen also continues to feel shame in it, and the more he rises, the more he feels that he should also have a voice.

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

At this time, he did not directly provoke Qin Hao, in addition to continuing to hurt Song Jia to vent his anger, he wanted to possess Chen Yanxi, he wanted to achieve an "unethical" balance, you sleep mine and I sleep yours.

After being confused about the oil, Chen Yanxi not only refused to protest to Zhang Songwen: "We can let you go up and down in this position." (There is a similar meaning in the domestic version, with the line "We can play with you all these years and throw you away.") This is actually not only a businessman's shout to corrupt officials, but also Chen Yanxi's first assumption that he and Qin Hao are a community, and Qin Hao will definitely defend himself.

But Qin Hao didn't. He was indifferent to Chen Yanxi's violation, which caused Chen Yanxi to abort and Chen Yanxi's whole person collapsed. These episodes are available in the domestic version. But the extent to which she is insulted and damaged in front will determine how empathetic the audience will be when she collapses later. I think Ashimoto will make me feel pain for Chen Yanxi more clearly.

Next is the whole film terrier: Song Jia accidentally killed Chen Yanxi, Qin Hao ignited, and Zhang Songwen rushed to the scene to participate. The plot that everyone speculated appeared in the footbook: Lian Ayun did not die, she stood up in the fire, and she was burned alive by the trio.

At this point, "Hell Lover" returns to the triangular balance. Zhang Songwen no longer seeks his right to speak or demand his wife's fidelity, and the three of them are "accomplices".

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

In the Japanese version of the poster, Qin Hao's tearful face after burning the corpse and Chen Yanxi's dancing girl costume are put together, and now it is very scary to look at this picture.

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

In addition, combined with Song Jia's "nude photos" scene to Jing Boran, the difference between the two women, Lian Ayun (Chen Yanxi) and Lin Hui (Song Jia), is obvious. Lin Hui can be a tool for men and can use herself as a tool. Ah Yun was forced to live like this, and he must not do it later.

Lin Hui followed the flow, did not resist, the lover left and married another man, the lover returned, the husband abused himself can also be blameless, and these two people maintain a relationship of different nature. Lian Ayun "sat on the stage" in Taiwan, but she got rid of the dust and did not want to go back, she did not require the loyalty of her partner, she could take care of his lover and children, but she asked "I am a partner", when the rape occurred, she clearly saw that she was not a "person", there was no difference from "sitting on the platform", so everything was gray.

To this point of nonsense one more question, the roles and arrangements of the two actresses.

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

Because Chen Yanxi's appearance in Taiwan's cabaret is not very good, many people feel that she is not suitable for this role. My feeling when I look at Ashimoto this time is that she is quite good.

Lin Hui is a woman who enjoys lust, but also a cowardly and numb woman, she and Jiang Zicheng have love, but she will not hate her husband and can do everything for her lover. Lian Ayun started by being forced to sell her body, so she hated selling her body even more, and the expectation of her alliance with Jiang Zicheng was to be an individual, so she was soft but sought dignity and benefits.

According to the conventional casting logic, Song Jia himself is resolute, Chen Yanxi herself is sweet, it seems that Song Jia should play the rebellious Lian Ayun, and Chen Yanxi plays the manipulated Lin Hui.

But Lou Ye made the right discerning choice, the other way around. Because Song Jia has better and more accurate control, will not play dog blood, just right and desire, the deeper the human nature, the more it needs not to be staged on the face. And Chen Yanxi's rival play with Zhang Songwen before being violated I think is right, it is that perfunctory feeling on the dust scene. After that, I think her pain scene is okay, because she is a babyface, and that pain will seem contrasting.

(Outrageous idea: So, it is better to let Chen Yanxi play pure in the song hall, Qin Hao's infatuation with him and love at first sight is very easy to explain, after all, Liu Piaopiao's kind of song girl route also exists.) )

Ashimoto made me clearly feel that the "Hell Lover" section was very good, and also made me clearly feel that Jing Boran and Ma Sichun were really bad. The domestic version is unclear because of the language expressed, and it is not clear what these two characters are going to do, and when you see the Hell Lovers group clearly, and then look at them, you will know that they are all wrong.

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

If this is an exam, Ma Si is purely trying to do the questions but his ability is too poor, Jing Boran just doesn't do the questions.

According to the full movie, Xiaonuo (Ma Sichun) has experienced the following in the growth process. When I was a child, my father was violent and my mother was all kinds of bloody horrors, my mother entered the madhouse, and suddenly there were rich uncles and aunts, and my mother came out well. In the first grade of elementary school, I knew that Uncle Qian was my biological father, and Aunt Ayun of Uncle Qian's family was very good to me and had a very tender memory. My adoptive father raped Aunt Ayun, and then Aunt Ayun suddenly disappeared. But I still go on vacation with my biological father and mother every year. Years later, my adoptive father found out that our family of three suddenly went crazy and refused to let me touch my biological father, and after a fight, I was told that my biological parents teamed up to kill Aunt Aun, who loved me, and I broke down, and I decided to murder my adoptive father.

It can be said that Xiao Nuo endured the results of all the "lovers of hell".

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

Next, the motivation and behavior of adult Xiaonuo also need to find a direction to answer the question. Did she murder for her own future and that of her rich biological father, or for something else? She wears Ayun's hood to murder, with a strong sense of revenge, but does she hate her biological parents? She is clearly a destroyed girl. But is she a pure dark girl who goes crazy for revenge, or is she selfish and indifferent like her mother, so at least kill her adoptive father first?

This setting, if this is what kind of performance for 20-year-old Zhou Xun. However, it was given to Ma Sichun. Ma Sichunyi's efforts have only one way to solve the problem: youth, youth, pain, pain. The actions arranged for her by the plot, she has no way to connect to the logic of a person's behavior. The only thing she can play is: ah so painful, I want to find someone to love.

Let's look at Jing Boran's Yang Jiadong. Jing Boran and Song Jia's "nude photos" scene, I suspect that the first purpose is to make a meme: Edison Chen himself watches nude photos news. It's a pity that Edison Chen was deleted.

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

Then on the basis of the plot of "nude photos", Jing Boran and Song Jia have two plots. The first is to test and use each other (that is, "Daylight Fireworks"), if according to this idea, Jing Boran should also use Ma Sichun, which is equivalent to using the two mothers and daughters. Second, there are indeed emotional entanglements, and according to Lou Ye's habits, it should actually be this. But emotional entanglements need to be foreshadowed, for example, young men need to pay attention when they see the beautiful Song Jia, and young men need to react emotionally after being entangled by dark girls, choosing between emotions and solving cases.

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

The handling of emotional entanglements requires motivation, and the whole person also needs motivation, is Yang Jiadong investigating the case for a personal grudge to avenge his father, or is he young and motivated to be strong, because the investigation was framed, so he must make his career clear? It's all a different approach.

In particular, at the beginning of the urban village fight, Yang Jiadong wore civilian clothes to participate in maintaining order. He was plainclothes in a dispute in an urban village. In the end, he chose to leave this position, what kind of mental journey is very important.

However, Jing Boran is like that anyway, shooting advertisements is also like that, acting in idol dramas is also like that, and acting in male dramas is also like that. It was suggested that he shoot the advertisement directly.

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

There is also a small problem, different from the role setting of Song Jia Qin Hao, Ma Sichun (Xiaonuo) and Jing Boran (Yang Jiadong) both grew up in Guangzhou, you don't need to speak all Cantonese, but you need to speak a little Cantonese, even if you grew up in a Mandarin-speaking family, you have to say a few words in Guangzhou since you were a child, right? They don't bother with this at all.

Because "Stormy Clouds" was released in Tokyo at the same time as his documentary "Behind the Dream", in which the actors can be seen discussing the characters, and the hell lovers trio have been discussing motives and logic, and then finding a way to act. And Ma Sichun can only ask the director, what kind of mood should I have. In addition, I didn't see how Jing Boran discussed the characters in the documentary. - Obviously, the understanding and re-creation of actors is very important.

In fact, Xiao Nuo and Yang Jiadong (and perhaps Lin Hui) should also be another group of "hell lovers". But since Ma Sichun and Jing Boran have no effect, this half of the "hell lovers" setting is equivalent to collapse.

Let's continue to talk nonsense at this point, who should these two young characters look for?

In fact, there is a Yan Zhuoling as a background board in the movie, and you can play Xiaonuo. In addition, among the young actresses now, Huang Yao is from Foshan (remember that she played Cantonese in "Over Spring"), I think it's okay. Police officer Yang Jiadong may be relatively suitable for Huang Xuan, because Huang Xuan will play the kind of man who immediately changes his eyes when he sees a beautiful woman, and the young Liu Ye is probably okay, when he was still a puppy eye. Considering Cantonese as a skill point, you can also find some more vegetarian Cantonese or Hong Kong actors. But, probably, looking for Jing Boran and Ma Sichun looks like the project will be better? I do not know.

After talking about the main feelings, I will list some of the differences I remember.

It is clearly seen in the documentary that the film was once titled "A Game One Dream".

Edison Chen did not show her face.

The opening urban village brawl details are more than the domestic version.

Tang Yijie's domestic violence, violence, and sexual assault details.

Details of Lian Ayun's burning and Lian Ayun's sexual assault.

The footbook play can be more streamlined, without those Laushizi car dramas in domestic theaters, Jing Boran and Qin Hao simply played a dozen and jumped directly to the end.

There is some reorganization of the timeline, and the domestic version is more chaotic.

The last time Jing Boran watched the surveillance video was 2013, and the domestic one was changed to 2012.

One important difference: the credits.

I originally liked the end of the domestic version, and the photos left in the plot of the movie walked by, just like the times passed. Whenever I feel something in the social news, I take out the ending of this movie to see it.

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

However, at the end of the film, the stills of the actors appear interspersed with real old photos. For example, a photo of Song Jia in a mental hospital is followed by a real photo of a mental hospital. In fact, in Japan, I read the footbook a second time because of coincidence, and I found that I cried every time I watched this film. It is equivalent to crying at the end of the domestic version, and I cried twice at the end of the film.

There is a compassion and God perspective at that ending. That's how we came about, of course we're hardworking, but we're just as meticulous.

(Then, "One Game, One Dream" was completely transformed from Wang Jie's popular song in my heart.) )

By the way, boast about the original advantages.

Zhang Songwen has been attracting attention in the industry since this film, and this year there is "Crazy", but I still think that his best performance is "Wind and Rain", and not letting Zhang Songwen speak Cantonese will seal his ability. As he becomes more and more popular and he becomes more and more proficient, certain moments will be a little exaggerated. But this kind of horse boy character in "Wind and Rain" is actually more difficult to act, and Zhang Songwen plays every side from the horse boy to the official well.

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

The deepest advantage is that the picture captures the era of this place.

I originally only vaguely felt that in the film and television works of recent years, only Lou Ye shot the style after the reform and opening up. After watching the documentary "Behind the Dream", I want to say that people who are more talented than you are more diligent than you, which is the effect of Lou Ye collecting a large number of old photos and repeatedly adjusting makeup and lighting. His requirement for the crew is to look like he has done nothing, but to restore the way life is.

Luxury and luxury appear so well in "Stormy Clouds". Every appearance of a designer bag is a kind of irony. How realistic the great hotels and villas and island holidays are, it is a depiction of a certain kind of wealth, rich, secret, and uneasy.

Four years on, I still wonder what the movie should have looked like

(△ End screen, domestic release version is also available.) )

I hope everyone can see the movie they are worried about.

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